Here comes my next ancestor for this week and he is my 5th
great-grandfather, William Elder, who was born about 1748 in Spartanburg
County, South Carolina the son of George Elder and Elizabeth Mayes. William’s
father, George Elder, 1729-1786, was from Banff, Scotland and his mother, Elizabeth
Mayes, 1731-1780, was from Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. This
ancestor is from my Dad’s side of the family through his father, Aubrey David
Beard.
From what I have found to date, William was their oldest
child of their ten known children, with nine sons and one daughter. William’s
siblings were the following: David Elder, 1750-1795, married Margaret ????;
Thomas Elder, 1752-before 1790, married Charlotte Hartley; John Elder, 1754-1799,
married Mary Ann Morrow; James Elder, 1756-1817, married Margaret Ann ????;
Samuel Elder, 1758-1797, married Cynthia Anne MacKelvain; Robert Elder,
1760-1821, married Sarah Morrow; Suzannah Elder, 1762-1850, married George
Storey; Alexander Elder, 1764-after 1798 and Andrew Elder, 1766-before 1790.
William and his family were farmers for the most part, but
they would also have needed to know how to hunt, fish, and fix anything and
everything, since they were never really living where things were easily obtained. I have yet to find a marriage date for
William, but he soon met and married Margaret Storey, in approximately 1771. Margaret Storey, 1754-before 1840, was also
from Spartanburg County, South Carolina and was the daughter of George Storey
and Nancy Cantor, who were both from Pennsylvania. Margaret’s brother, George Storey, Jr.
married William’s only sister, Suzannah Elder in about 1779, they eventually
moved on to Southern Illinois where they died.
My William
Elder, served as a private from December 15, 1780 to September 8, 1781; in
Carter’s Company from April 25, 1781 to June 1, 1782 as a Captain of horse from
December 10, 1781 to February 10, 1782 and as a Captain on foot from July 14 to
August 24, 1782 under Colonel, Benjamin Roebuck.
James
Elder,
served in the 1st Spartan Regiment of Militia, from Spartanburg County, under
Colonel, John Thomas, as a Captain.
Thomas
Elder, served
as a horseman in the militia under his brother, Captain, James Elder and Colonel,
Benjamin Roebuck from December 15, 1780 to September 8, 1781. He was a prisoner of war and died of
malnutrition while on board a prison ship in Charleston Harbor.
John
Elder,
served in the militia under his brother, Captain, William Elder and Colonel,
Benjamin Roebuck during 1782, in addition, he was under a Colonel Taylor.
Robert
Elder, served
as a horseman from December 15, 1780 to September 8, 1781 and from December 10,
1781 to February 10, 1782 under his brother, Captain, William Elder and Colonel,
Benjamin Roebuck and was at the Battle of Kings Mountain and Cowpens.
I found the following picture at: https://jaysteeleblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/rev-war-militia-soldier.jpg
and I think this could be what my ancestor and his brothers may have looked like
during the war, I doubt they would have had fancy uniforms.
This
next pictures depicts a battle scene in dense forest, which is what most of the
battles the Elder brothers would have participate in probably would have looked
like. I found this picture at this link:
http://www.blindpigandtheacorn.com/.a/6a00e54ffe2ad38833013485320e52970c-400wi
William and Margaret had ten known children, all born in
Spartanburg County, South Carolina before they moved west to Kentucky. These ten children were the following: George
Elder, 1772-1857, married Nancy Agnes Henry, 1785-1866, and they were my 4th
great-grandparents; Mary Elder, 1775-????; Hannah Elder, 1778-before 1832,
married David Hill; James Elder, 1781-1837, married Margaret Hamilton; Thomas
Elder, 1783-before November 1843, married Catherine Armstrong; Sarah Elder,
1784-1849, married Samuel Jackson; William E. Elder, 1786-1875, married Anna
Armstrong; Samuel Chalon Elder, 1790-1868, married Frances Fairl Stephenson; Elizabeth
Elder, 1792-1807, married William Stephenson, Jr.; and Margaret Elder,
1794-before October 1834, she married her first cousin Samuel Elder, son of
John Elder and Mary Ann Morrow.
After the war, seven of the children of George
and Margaret Elder, including my William, came to Kentucky through the
Cumberland Gap in about 1795, and William’s brother, David Elder, died on the
way, and was buried on the side of the road, somewhere near the Gap, according
to family stories. One son, Samuel Elder,
stayed in Spartanburg County, South Carolina where he died. Some of this information came from old family
records and the bible of John C. Elder, which was in the possession of Valanie
Elder Clayton of Salem, Livingston County, Kentucky in 1978 when my Daddy,
Frank Beard first saw it. Can you imagine taking ten children, the
youngest just a babe in arms and traveling for about 600 miles to an unknown
area, worrying about Indians, highway men and the like? William’s siblings and their families would
have had children with them as well, I don’t know the exact count that went
with them, but they would have had a fairly large company, which would have
helped in safety at least.
The following
is a picture of the Cumberland Gap that I found online and used in another
story I wrote earlier this year. I have
been in this area before and it is beautiful and still pretty rugged to this
day. What they went through and made it
through in 1795, is probably unimaginable to us as we drive through that area
today.
The families traveled on from the Gap to western Kentucky
and Christian County and to the area which in 1798, became Livingston County
and this area where they settled would in 1842 become Crittenden County,
Kentucky the county I was born in 163 years later. 220 years since they arrived in Western
Kentucky and there are still members of the Elder family living in Crittenden
County, Kentucky to this day. I was just
home in August of this year and drove down the uncrowded back roads of Western
Kentucky. Here are a just couple of
pictures that I took while I was there in Western Kentucky this year. The first two are in Crittenden County and
the other one is looking over at Cave-in-Rock, Illinois from the Crittenden
County side of the Ohio River.
William
Elder didn’t live long after coming to Kentucky, sometime around 1808 he died, but
how or from what I do not know. His wife, Margaret, continued on for a number of
years and she died sometime after 1830, but before 1840, but again I do not
know when for certain. I also do not know
where they are buried, but their son George, my direct line ancestor and his
wife, Nancy, and some of the family are buried in the Old Marion Cemetery in
Marion, Crittenden County, Kentucky.
Maybe that is where William and Margaret are too, I know there are a number
of unmarked graves there.
The
Elder family left a lasting legacy in Western Kentucky, William’s descendants
and his brother’s descendants have been doctors, lawyers, preachers, singing evangelists,
teachers, miners and farmers. They
fought and died for our FREEDOMS, so that we could enjoy the life we have
today. Without their sacrifices none of
us would be here, they were just your everyday walk of life people, but they
are my people and I am proud to be one of their many descendants.
Just read your article. Was so cool to see the name of my old home town and the pic from the KY side. Haven't been back there in years.
ReplyDeleteGood article.
Thanks
DeleteHello I'm a dependent of Samuel Elder and Ive been looking into the family history and I have the family Thuros on Scotland's north coast do you know why George emigrated to the US or when. I hope this reaches you. Thanks you
ReplyDeleteHi I am not sure why George Elder came to America, but I know he was here by at least 1747, but so far I have not found an actually immigration record.
DeleteFantastic story and extremely well researched and written.
ReplyDeleteThank you so much I appreciate your comments.
DeleteHave hit a brickwall with my G grandmother Lucinda Love Elder one profile has Her B 1866 in Greenville SC , late Uncle had Her B 1864 in Spartanburg Co and Father as William and thought Mother was Mary with one Sibling William using Her obits only relative mentioned other then Husband and Children was Sister Mrs Charles Cathey of Charlotte NC, found Charles Edward Cathey on find a grave that lead to Family Search there it showed that He had married Elizabeth Elder B 1871 in Spartanburg Co SC found Her obits no mention of other Family members beside Husband and Children. Frankie.
ReplyDeleteAlso I am a Kentucky Boy can look out my window and see the Cumberland Gap in the winter time.
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